2016 Election, Elections

The Shocking Intolerance of Anti-Trump Liberals

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Photo: Jory Rand/Twitter

Photo: Jory Rand/Twitter

I have an unusual reading habit for a young, conservative woman: I regularly peruse the very liberal feminist site Jezebel.

Why? Well, I’ve always felt it was important to try to understand where liberals are coming from, think about if there are chances for common ground, and try to be thoughtful and considerate about their own concerns when I write. And on the Jezebel site, which is part of the larger Gawker (of course, the original site is now gone) family, there is generally a robust comment section.

I figured there would be a lot of emotions over Donald Trump’s win in the presidential election. But I wildly underestimated the extent of the anger—and the actions people would be taking.

Commenters are talking about ending relationships with Trump voters—and not just on Facebook.

Just take this comment from someone using the handle “bess marvin, girl detective,” responding to a piece about liberal comedian Samantha Bee noting that a lot of white women had voted for Trump, and addressing “so-called progressive white Jezzies”:

So many comments over over the past few months shows that a lot of y’all don’t want to be liberated, you want to be liked. ‘My (insert relative, loved one here) is voting for Trump but he/she is the nicest, kindest person ever…’ REALLY? How about this? Your loved one or relative is an awful human being. How kind and nice are they that they would push aside everything Trump has said and done to pull the lever?

To which “LesPane” responded:

Some of us white folks did, and it didn’t matter. Some of us asked relatives to leave our houses, and it didn’t matter. Some of us told grandparents that they wouldn’t be see they grandkids again if they talked politics around them, and it didn’t matter.

Though we come from very different places, I’m not actually to blame for this. I understand and share your anger.

What?

Look, I’m no stranger to disagreeing with relatives about politics. And that’s partly why I was so shocked to read this. Sure, some are truly upset now in light of this election’s result (welcome to how some of us felt in 2008 and 2012!), and maybe people will take different actions in the end.

But right now, at least some liberals are considering literally ending ties with relatives—including not letting grandparents see their grandkids!—over a vote for Trump. And that’s not just these two commenters. On a different Jezebel post, commenters discussed unfriending people on Facebook who supported Trump. “ImmortalAgnes” wrote:

I also deleted everyone who supported Trump from FB. Thankfully, it wasn’t that many people. Unfortunately, it included my step-dad. I don’t think these people don’t get it – I think they don’t care. I think that to take rights from women, from people of color, from the LGBT+ community, from non-Christians is what they want.

I love my step-dad. But I cannot stand by and pretend like he didn’t just proudly support racism and misogyny. I will not be speaking to him. I will not be seeing him. It’s a hard thing for me, but in this case my values and principals are more important and I will not invite someone at war with those to be part of my life.

Again: What? What are the rights that supposedly Trump is going to take away? We’ve been living in a country where, as The Weekly Standard’s Mark Hemingway tweeted, “Obama did sue nuns over birth control for crying out loud,” where religious bakers and florists have been told they have to participate in same-sex weddings, where an African-American fire chief lost his job over a book he wrote about his religious beliefs that included passages on same-sex marriage, and yet, the real threat to rights is from Trump?

Now there are hundreds of comments on Jezebel, and certainly not every one went in the direction of ending all contact with Trump fans. “InCaseYouDidn’tKnowTheyCallMeTheJackal” wrote, “Bent, but not broken. I am still a proud American. I am still a proud feminist. I will still welcome debate with those who oppose my views.”

And, of course, this kind of anger is not just happening online. There have been protests in cities across the country.

In Los Angeles, “Protesters … set on fire a piñata depicting the head of the president-elect,” reported CNN.

“Police in riot gear struggled to hold back scores of protesters in some of the cities as protesters chanted ‘Not My President’ and ‘No Racist USA,’” reportedUSA Today.

Liberals, I’ve spent the past eight years seeing the implementation of policy after policy I’ve despised, whether through law or executive action. I certainly get that it’s not easy. But I hope you’ll do what I’ve done, via reading Jezebel and other sites and talking to those on the left: Try to listen to what Americans at a different spot on the political spectrum are saying. Think about what they’re feeling. Try to understand, no matter how morally heinous you think a particular policy is, why someone, even if you think misguidedly, believes otherwise.

Yes, sometimes you’ll get angry. Sometimes you’ll be sad. Sometimes you’ll be truly baffled as to how someone can be both kind and compassionate and hold a certain position.

As I said: It’s not easy.

But it’s worth doing. Hillary Clinton was right about one thing: We are “stronger together.” This is an emotional week. But I hope in the long run, we can have a vigorous, but civil, debate between liberals and conservatives in the Trump era—not a refusal by liberals to even talk to Trump voters.

Commentary by Katrina Trinko, the Daily Signal

  • Richard Bagenstose

    told you back in july if trump wins there will be war here and if hillary wins there will be war here , they rich don’t want change , the freeloaders just want their welfare checks , if hilary won the money runs out , if trump wins the rich will be against him , then you have soros funding these animals,witch should be arrested at the first sine of violence

    • Karll

      They keep tweeting about killing Trump. How about the same fate for Soros and other rabble rousers?

      • 67N20 Army

        Yes,, Where were they 8 years ago when the ILLEGAL was “Selected”???

      • Richard Bagenstose

        well if you haven’t learned by now , the left always accuses the right for the violence , but it’s the left that preforms the violence , i guess it soothes their quilty conchenses

    • 67N20 Army

      Just found out that the Slimebag Soros put 2.3 million in the coffer to defeat our Sheriff Arpaio !!!

  • realbrightguy

    Water Cannons would put a quick stop to these riots. Even better if it is freezing.

    • Karll

      The good news is that these leftist pansies would run, wrists flailing, at the slightest whiff of tear gas.

  • Karll

    This all is caused by left stream media brainwashing over decades.
    Some of our more gullible friends, relatives and acquaintances fervently believed the LIES of the divisive leftists now in control of our media and academia.
    I’ve witnessed this firsthand, my 88-yr old mother, who has watched MSNBC for the last decade, absolutely believes that Hellary is honest and truthful, and considers her email scandal to be just political nonsense.

    • The truth was exposed about democrats by emails from staff,committe,individuals ,and media. Bernie sold out for his new house. Hillary sold her soul for money. With the Supreme Court being taken from the left,panty wetting dems will be on drugs for years.

    • NowYouKnow

      Leftist media and very Leftist government schools. The public schools have become Leftist indoctrination centers since about 1970 when Boomers entered the teaching workforce. Stop calling them Liberals or Progressives — they’re neither.

  • I-RIGHT-I

    “Some of us told grandparents that they wouldn’t be see they grandkids again if they talked politics around them, and it didn’t matter.”
    It’s going to matter when that will you’re waiting on is finally read aloud you stupid bastid.

  • BonLovesFreedom

    Hypocrisy, bull-headed, intolerant leftists. Shame on the parents who told their children’s grandparents they couldn’t see them anymore because they were voting for Trump. The invitation still stands; If you want to live in a socialist or communist country, get gone – now! We live in a republic – like it or leave it.

  • C M

    The collective amnesia expressed by whites about Donald Trump’s racist rhetoric further reinforces what many on the left already believe. The republican party coddles bigots, racists and misogynists. The surprise is that there are still so many in Amerika.

    • I-RIGHT-I

      We haven’t forgotten anything we just don’t care. In addition your definition of racist and the made up word “misogynist” doesn’t’ fly. You are the racist, the bigot and the enemy of free people and you will atone one way or the other loser.

  • Reruho

    I understand this because my brother-in-law told us he wS ashamed of his family for voting for Trump and told us he has disowned us.

    • I-RIGHT-I

      A good brother or sister works to destroy the marriage of a liberal into the family. That’s what families are for.

  • Duane A. Fisher

    Now the world knows who the party of “HATE” & VIOLENCE really are: The Progressive Communist Democratic Party NWO Puppets supported by the CRIMINALS Hitlery & Soros. Terrorist like black lives matter and the brain washed students of our communist run universities. America has spoken an elected a free market Business man who believes in the CONSTITUTION & Negotiation . The Hard Line Leftist Domestic Enemies of America that lives here among us are a threat to all America. Thank God we have the 2nd Amendment! Remain Armed America! Buy more Ammo! These Domestic “TRAITORS” are coming for you.There are Thousands of these “TRAITORS”, But there are Millions of us! They claim Our streets. We Claim “Our Republic!” This maybe how the Left what to get Martial Law started under “GAYBAMA”. in LESS THEN 2 MONTHS THEY LOOSE ALL POWER. Stand strong American Patriots. These NWO Communist threaten our system of government and way of life.

  • you cannot talk to some libs. it’s a waste of time. sad.

    • edwin

      Debating with a conservative is like cleaning up your dog’s vomit: It is an inevitable consequence of your association, he isn’t much help, and it makes very clear the fact that he will swallow anything.
      I will never understand the far right’s mindset, so I don’t even waste one second of my time trying to do so. All you need to know is that they’re batshit crazy, off-the-charts lunatics who believe everything that comes out of their czars’ mouths, and will not ever question anything. You cannot reason with these kind of people, nor does any logic about anything apply to them. They’re robots without brains and do as they’re told. Pretty scary, isn’t it?
      (The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. – John Kenneth Galbraith )
      Right Wing Republicans are like alligators, all mouth and no ears.
      Anybody heard of the Clinton Scandal Paradox, for lack of a better word? It’s a form of cognitive dissonance that infects many Bubble People. Let me explain it.
      There is a small minority of gullible nonthinkers and confused conspiracy theorists who believe that Hillary Clinton is guilty of some ethereal set of crimes or unethical behavior. They are unable to articulate what the crimes are because they only exist in a muddled state of chaos in their confused imaginations. They were implanted by right-wing propagandists and their media accomplices. I realize that, to confused conservatives, nothing needs to make sense, logic is turned upside down, common sense is the first thing thrown out the window, and trying to reconcile actual facts with the confusion that they live with on a daily basis is not exactly a priority.
      Here’s a CHALLENGE. How do you nonthinkers rationalize the fact that there is not now, and never has been, any proof that Hillary Clinton is guilty of any of the crimes and unethical behavior that YOU have allowed yourselves to be brainwashed into believing by your idiotic right-wing idols?
      Don’t be mindless sheep and go rebleating the right wing lies and disinformation that you have been brainwashed to believe. They are NOT PROOF!!!!! I ask for PROOF, not the lies and disinformation, itself.

  • DGArnie

    The democrats, the msmedia, and the george soros funded protesters are all still trying to gin up anarchy against Donald and our country. What they witnessed last Tuesday was the collective intelligence of the American voter, who is sick and tired of the political landscape, obama & clinton and decided to fix it once and for all.

  • RLTMLT

    Where was this before the election ? Never mind, Trump won anyway !
    Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton walk in to a bar. Donald leans over, and with a smile on his face, says,
    “The media is really tearing you apart for that Scandal.”
    Hillary: “You mean my lying about Benghazi?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean the massive voter fraud?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean the military not getting their votes counted?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Using my secret private server with classified material to hide my Activities?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “The NSA monitoring our phone calls, emails and everything else?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Using the Clinton Foundation as a cover for tax evasion, hiring cronies, and taking bribes from foreign countries?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean the drones being operated in our own country without the benefit of the law?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Giving 123 Technologies $300 Million, and right afterward it declared bankruptcy and was sold to the Chinese?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean arming the Muslim Brotherhood and hiring them in the White House?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “Whitewater, Watergate committee, Vince Foster, commodity Deals?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Turning Libya into chaos?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Being the mastermind of the so-called Arab Spring that only brought chaos, death and destruction to the Middle East and North Africa?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Leaving four Americans to die in Benghazi?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Trashing Mubarak, one of our few Muslim friends?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “The funding and arming of terrorists in Syria, the destruction and destabilization of that nation, giving the order to our lapdogs in Turkey and Saudi Arabia to give sarin gas to the “moderate” terrorists in Syria that they eventually used on civilians, and framed Assad, and had it not been for the Russians and Putin, we would have used that as a pretext to invade Syria, put a puppet in power, steal their natural resources, and leave that country in total chaos, just like we did with Libya?
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “The creation of the biggest refugees crisis since WWII?”
    Trump: “No the other one:”
    Hillary: “Leaving Iraq in chaos?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “The DOJ spying on the press?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean HHS Secretary Sibelius shaking down health insurance Executives?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “Giving our cronies in SOLYNDRA $500 MILLION DOLLARS and 3 months later they declared bankruptcy and then the Chinese bought it?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “The NSA monitoring citizens?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “The State Department interfering with an Inspector General Investigation on departmental sexual misconduct?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “Me, The IRS, Clapper and Holder all lying to Congress?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “Threats to all of Bill’s former mistresses to keep them quiet?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean the INSIDER TRADING of the Tyson chicken deal I did where I invested $1,000 and the next year I got $100,000?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean when Bill met with Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, just before my hearing with the FBI to cut a deal?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean the one where my IT guy at Platte River Networks asked Reddit for help to alter emails?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “You mean where the former Haitian Senate President accused me and my foundation of asking him for bribes?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean that old video of me laughing as I explain how I got the charges against that child rapist dropped by blaming the young girl for liking older men and fantasising about them. Even though I knew the guy was guilty?
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean that video of me coughing up a giant green lunger into my drinking glass then drinking it back down?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean that video of me passing out on the curb and losing my shoe?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean when I robbed Bernie Sanders of the Democratic Party Nomination by having the DNC rig the nomination process so that I would win?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “You mean how so many people that oppose me have died in mysterious ways?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “Travel Gate? When seven employees of the White House Travel Office were fired so that friends of Bill and mine could take over the travel business? And when I lied under oath during the investigation by the FBI, the Department of Justice, the White House itself, the General Accounting Office, the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “The scandal where (while I was Secretary if State) the State Department signed off on a deal to sell 20% of the USA’s uranium to a Canadian corporation that the Russians bought, netting a $145 million donation from Russia to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 speaking gig for Bill from the Russian Investment Bank that set up the corporate buyout? That scandal?”
    Trump: “No, the other one.”
    Hillary: “That time I lied when I said I was under sniper fire when I got off the plane in Bosnia?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “That time when after I became the First Lady, I improperly requested a bunch of FBI files so I could look for blackmail material on government insiders?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “That time when Bill nominated Zoe Baird as Attorney General, even though we knew she hired illegal immigrants and didn’t pay payroll taxes on them?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “When I got Nigeria exempted from foreign aid transparency guidelines despite evidence of corruption because they gave Bill $700,000 in speaking fees?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “That time in 2009 when Honduran military forces allied with rightist lawmakers ousted democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya, and I as then-Secretary of State sided with the armed forces and fought global pressure to reinstate him?”
    Trump: “No, the other one:”
    Hillary: “I give up! … Oh wait, I think I’ve got it! When I stole the White House furniture and silverware when Bill left Office?”
    Trump: “THAT’S IT, THAT ONE”
    Hillary: “I thought I’d got away with that one dammit !!!”.

  • Kevin

    Blood is thicker than water, but knowing the difference between right and wrong is thicker than blood. Anyone who thinks they can take my personal property (e.g., firearms) are the enemy, just like Clinton stated that the Republicans and the NRA are HER enemies! I’ll tell you who is NOT MY PRESIDENT: Barrack H. Obama!

  • Skip

    This is more of George Soros and his son Eric’s attempt to destroy our country. He has funded all the liberal trouble making organizations and wants to destroy our freedom. It’s time to turn the tide on this socialist and do whatever it takes to stop them…..

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