2016 Election, Donald Trump, Elections

Liberals step up campaign of violent threats in plot to rig Electoral College vote

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Photo: Gage Skidmore/Flickr (cc by-sa 2.0)

The nation’s electors are set to make the election results official on Dec. 19 — that is, if they can survive the next three weeks. According to many Republican members of the Electoral College, they’re receiving pressure, harassment, and even death threats to cast a faithless vote against President-elect Donald Trump:

Texas Republican Alex Kim said he and his fellow electors have been inundated with emails and phone calls from those urging them to consider switching their vote for Mr. Trump to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

“At first, everyone was kind of enchanted by it,” Mr. Kim told NBC5 in Dallas-Forth Worth.”Now all the electors are starting to get beaten down. There are some electors who have been threatened with harm or with death.”

Michael Banerian, a Michigan elector and youth chairman of the state Republican Party, said he has received several messages threatening violence.

“You have people saying, ‘You’re a hateful bigot, I hope you die,’ ” Mr. Banerian told the Detroit News. “I’ve had people talk about shoving a gun in my mouth and blowing my brains out. And I’ve received dozens and dozens of those emails. Even the non-threatening-my-life emails are very aggressive.”

In fact, the threats became so bad in Idaho that Secretary of State Lawerence Denney had to issue a statement:

“While there is no federal requirement binding electors to their pledge, and while Idaho is one of 21 states that does not have state-level legislation to force an elector to comply, attempting to sway an elector’s commitment to their party through insults, vulgar language, or threats, simply lacks civility,” Mr. Denney said.

“These are people who have volunteered to represent our state and their party in a process that goes back to the founding of our nation,” he said. “If the presidential election had been different, the presidential electors would be from a different party and would still deserve the same respect. They don’t deserve to be mistreated by someone just because that person doesn’t agree with the outcome of the election.”

Despite the harassment, however, Republican electors seem to be standing firm:

“I’m getting deluged,” Michael McNeely, an elector and vice chairman of the Georgia GOP, told the Journal-Constitution. “But for all the efforts of those sending those out, there’s no wavering at all. I’m fully supporting Donald Trump, and I’m not concerned any of us will flip.”

[…]

Mr. Kim and Mr. Banerian insist there’s no chance they will heed the pleas of Democrats and abandon Mr. Trump.

“When people ask me to vote for Hillary Clinton, there’s no way,” Mr. Kim said. “I reject the Democratic Party principles, and I reject Hillary Clinton.”

Said Mr. Banerian, a senior at Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan: “Even if I could, I wouldn’t be remotely interested in changing my vote. The people of Michigan spoke, and it’s our job to deliver that message.”

  • Texas Belle

    Those same liberals who are making threatening remarks are the ones calling Conservatives bigots and intolerant. They haven’t looked in the mirror lately.

  • harry

    IF BUY ANY CHANCE THEY GET TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION I HOPE THEY DO NOT THINK THE REST OF US WHO SUPPORT THE LAW WILL JUST SIT AND NOT SAY ANYTHING.IT WILL BE 10 TIME WORSE THAN WHATS HAPPENING NOW.THEY SHOULD STOP AND THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

  • horphmyre

    So, how come the police are not involved? A death threat is criminal.

  • brucebluemel

    Just hang tough folks, there are a lot moire of us than them and I can’t imagine Trump supporters standing by and letting these mental midgets harm anyone but themselves.

  • Robert

    Such a crappy load of BS, any mail can be traced to who sent it , and from what location. phone calls a little harder because of throw away phones. If this is really going on why are the police not involved,
    The second thing is it might not be just Liberals, most of the Republican Party in Congress does not like Trump and 29% have already said they would not support his platform, RINOs.
    HAVE A GOOD DAY

    • Elaine Morris

      Boo Hoo…they are all liars! IF you are afraid? You have body guards, idiots!

      • Robert

        Elaine Morris
        I do not think they have been threatened they are to well insulated but this site likes to stir up discontent.
        ]HAVE A GOOD DAY

        • Elaine Morris

          Thank you!

          • Chief741A

            And when somebody actually kills an elector, Bobby here will claim that the bullets were imaginary, and anybody who reports the story “likes to stir up discontent”.

          • Robert

            Chief741A
            Do you know who the electors are or where they are going to meet, in the state capitols, so I do suppose you would have to have a minimum of fifty killers located at a place which is supposed to be secret, to kill members who are supposed to be secret except to the Republican party in each state..
            Electoral College is set in stone, the rules are about the same, we hear these arguments after every new President is elected. The number of times anyone has voted outside of the rules you can count on one hand. To change the College to the popular vote would take years and ratification of 2/3 of the states, and I am sure there is not enough support for that. The only thing that is easier to change are the rules about who an elector can vote for or not vote fro is up to the states.
            If you were s good at research as you want to be at trying to stir up discontent, you could probably get an education being Trump says he likes the uneducated because they are easier to convince.
            http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/02/24/donald-trump-wins-nevada-caucuses-sot.cnn
            Trump must love you to no end.
            HAVE A NICE DAY

          • Chief741A

            I doubt seriously that Mr Trump would like me at all, bobby-poo. You might try to read some of my other posts. You would see that I think that Trump is a jerk and I wish to God that anybody else had won the Republican nomination. On the other hand, if the Democrats had run anybody but the Hildabeast, they could easily have been Trump. I didn’t vote FOR Trump – I voted AGAINST Clinton, and so did several million other Americans.

            By the way, I stopped reading your sophomoric screeds a couple weeks ago.

          • Robert

            Chief741A
            I am sorry you can not stand the truth or facts, everything I post is backed up by facts, not my opinion, I only make an opinion after I get all the facts.
            I have posted to you on several ocassions, when your post did not meet the facts of the thing.
            HAVE A GOOD DAY

    • RLTMLT

      You might want to recheck your facts, most of the Trump decenters are from the Neoconservative Wing of the party. Trump has promoted U.S. normalization with Russia and China and only the war mongering Neoconservative wing of the Republican party has railed against his position ! Even the Roman Empire vanished after almost a thousand years of warmongering in an attempt to establish a world wide military empire ! The Brits and the various E.U. Countries are crying now because we are virtually bankrupt with over 20 Trillion in debt and they will be forced, for the first time in over seventy years, to fully fund their own nation’s military defense ! The end of all their Socialist programs that were made possible by full U.S. Taxpayer funding of their National Defense in the form of NATO !

      • Robert

        RLTMLT
        It does not matter what side of the party they are from, the fact is without a Majority, and with 29% of the party not supporting Trump he will not have a majority in Congress to get anything he wants to get done.I do not recall any country crying because of our national debt, Congress decides that not the President. If you access the Constitution and I am sure you already have in article two it states that the President must have the consent of Congress to do anything.
        Why do you even think Europe is in bad financial shape when their GDP is higher than the US or China, and their credit rating is as good and in some cases better than ours. Why is it you are not speaking of Israel who without our money truly could not run their Socialist programs, or get the weapons for their military. We give more to Israel than any other country.
        If you think NATO is not needed why do you thin Putin has not invaded, the NATO countries he wants back as part of what used to be the USSR., If there was no NATO Putin would have already invaded multiple countries in Northern and Eastern Europe. Putin is a very dangerous individual, I know this from my days in the intelligence community, one of the Russian agents in North Africa liked or trusted him.
        Why would Trump not want to be friends with Putin, both have Russian Heritage and both want to just take what they want. Never mind the people they step on getting it.
        HAVE A GOOD DAY

        • RLTMLT

          Given a nuclear armed battlefield and people like you who are always ready and willing to pull the trigger given the slightest provocation, the rest of us might as well just sit back and wait for all life on the planet to come to an end !

          • Robert

            RLTMLT
            You have me completely wrong, I am a person that an y violence is the last resort.
            But if talking does not solve the problem, and they are still a threat to my life then I am not afraid of violence, or loosing my life.. I do suppose you would set back and let some one abuse you to no end and just say I enjoyed that.
            If the whole world thinks Russia is a danger to everyone then why should I think any thing different. Putin may be a dangerous man but he also knows that a nuclear war there are no winners, but I do know he will push to the point of war to get what he wants.
            Anyone who deals with him, and i am saying him not Russians in general will come up with the short end of the stick.
            HAVE A GOOD DAY

          • RLTMLT

            “but I do know “Putin” will push to the point of war to get what he wants”
            Considering that we have kept NATO alive twenty five years beyond the end of a forty year long “Cold War” and continue to spend Trillions of Taxpayer Dollars building advanced weaponry as our infrastructure collapses and we face the worst economy since the Great Depression, it appears that we have adopted similar goals !
            I have no use for war, I got my fill of it in Vietnam. A war that required the killing of a president to promote and the sacrifice of over 65,000 young Americans. Putin, like most Russians, totally rejected Communism 25 years ago. Nobody below the Wealthy Russian Oligarchs ever benefitted from that political philosophy. Their future economic destiny is tied to Capitalism and Free Trade which they have been carrying out on a limited scale with various E.U. Countries and China. They are forced to remain on a war footing, maintaining questionable relationships with country’s like IRAN, due solely to the insane rants of American Neoconservatives who harbor a single vision for America as an International Military Empire, a bad habit we inherited from our ancestors in Britain and refuse to break !
            HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING

          • Robert

            Putin just changed from one type of Totalitarian Government to another, so the Polit Bereau could not control what he wanted to do. According to international observers the few he let in there has not been a fir and open election in Russia since Putin came to power.
            I totally agree with you about the Viet war, I was in Thailand in 1959 supporting the soldiers of Fortune better know as CIA , who were using old B17 from the Philipines to bomb the Vietnesse That is how I got into Intelligence service from the USAF, I worked the Middle East and Africa most of my Career but I happened top be about 40 Klicks north of Hanoi when the collapse came.
            WE never gave anything to China the US just priced it self out of the Market, with the inflated wages and costs, any company want to make a profit, and the main costs to any business is labor about 43%of expenses go toward labor, So the Companies moved to cheap labor. The Military Industrial Complex like Eisenhour said is the Greatest threat to Democracy
            we have, just look at he last Submarine that was just launched $7 Billion and counting, at the same time the largest most luxurious cruise ship in the world cost only $2.3 Billion., they buy up all teh Competition and then you have to pay their price like $800 for a replacement toilet seat for the C5 aircraft that Most stores like Lowe’s or Home Depot sell for under $20 and the Coffee Maker on one of the airplanes it was exposed that the aircraft manufacturer paid less than $50 for it and charged the Government $2600.
            We need strong Military if it was not for the US Russia would now be controlling all of Europe Right now China is becoming aggressive to her neighbors and laying claim to parts of the South China Sea that have always been neutral territory

          • RLTMLT

            I was repairing the avionics in old WWII C119 aircraft and the flying boxcar, can’t remember the designation ! Spent some time in Japan switching out failed avionics in fighter jets ferried back and forth from Nam. Tasks that became too dangerous to do exposed on an open aircraft field in Nam with snipers everywhere !
            Let’s agree to disagree, I choose to give Putin the benefit of a doubt mainly due to their ultimate adoption of a Capitalist style economy. I agree with you that Corporate America was the prime instigator in sending our living wage manufacturing jobs off shore to lower their cost of labor. Do you think that they even gave a thought to the fact that they were reducing the buying power of American consumers who could no longer afford their products ? Frustrating watching this go on for over fifteen years while Washington just looked the other way until the bottom fell out in 2008 !
            I’m not rejecting a strong military, it was a life changing experience for me that changed my life for the better. I couldn’t believe that the Nixon Administration was behind pausing the Military Draft, I say pausing because the current president can restart it in the event it is needed. I would hope that Trump considers this option based on the Marxist cancer that has infected the youth of this country that foretells serious potential internal divisions that could have dyer future consequences for our Republic !
            HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING !

          • Robert

            RLTMLT
            I do suppose you have a right to give Putin the benefit of the doubt, but in my former position and the people I keep in contact with, I know for a fact he can not be trusted, his word is as untrustworthy as he is. A few years back two of his agents in Iraq made a some bad comments about him and the next week they were gone and when asked about them we were told in secret that they were made to disappear, killed in action.
            The main trouble in this country started in 1965 with the hostile takeover of Corporations by what was known as Corporate raiders, MR Pickin’s from Texas was a big figure in that. It makes it so if I have a corporation and I do not want to sell anyone who has the money can offer 10% over my stock price and they basically own my company with out any say so from me. .
            I think the youth of this country are getting smarter every day due to the Internet, they know that Democratic Socialism is the only way to go at this point, where the rich Oligarchs who run the country by buying our Congress, and no matter what we do it will not hurt them they will just relocate to another country where they can control..
            Nothing has been done i9n this country that is not in line with the Constitution and there are already serious internal divisions that have for many years caused serious consequences, it is call racism, and religious fanatism. In both cases a few persons dictating what others should or should not do and even trying to get laws passed that interfere with the freedoms of those that they dislike..

          • RLTMLT

            You and I were beneficiaries of a Socialist system called the U.S. Military. Three hot’s and a cot along with medical care, vocational training in one of many skills, and a small pay check. The price, disciplining our thinking and actions, self modifications that benefitted us in a military role and later in civilian life. But fifty tears ago the youth of this country started rejecting that form of Socialism because it required a commitment to the country that has given them a virtual free ride. We are both old enough to have seen the foundation of this social tragedy being built back in the fifties when Marxists like Dr. Benjamin Spock were sowing the seeds of Communism by telling young mothers to, among other things, spare the rod and spoil the child. Looking back sixty years, I was originally troubled by the Anti-communist rants of Joseph McCarthy. A fear that was fostered by the same Liberal Press and Hollywood Commies that continue to push Marxism today. McCarthy’s warnings have come back to haunt those of us who were alive in that era and have lived long enough to see the damage that he predicted ! He proposed a mandatory loyalty pledge be taken by all citizens, we essentially took that pledge when we chose military service !
            I SHOULDN’T HAVE EATEN SO MUCH YESTERDAY !

          • Robert

            RLTMLT
            Most of my Military Career if you can call it that, was not spent with the Military, I spent about 2 years as a Air Force person before going into the intelligence community, technically I was in the Air Force but was only on a base when landed there sometimes on assignment travel, after I got hurt on Assignment I did go back tot he Air Force fro 23months prior to Retirement, I do not remember any one taking care of me but me and my co-associate. In most cases we were on our own to fend for ourselves.
            I do not understand why everyone keeps associating Democratic Socialism with Communism or Marxism, not even close on any front. In Democratic Socialism the people have moire say in Government than they do in the United States under our so called Capitalistic System which only makes the rich richer and the working class poorer and with out. money for infrastructure building or repair.
            A very small percentage of eligible Americans have served in the Military, took the oath, because of longer life span right now only 13.2 percent of the population has or is serving in the military, included in that is 1.4% female.
            Compared to an overall population that is not even as high as the service charge I sometimes pay at auctions I love to attend.
            Everyone can hate Democratic Socialism,,but he most successful Countries are Totally Democratic Socialism or well on the way, as the US is among those well on the way, because it is the only way we can survive.
            I do respect your opinion and it is a difference blogging with someone who has something constructive to say even though I disagree with them.
            YES I DO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT EATING TO MUCH< I THINK I ATE THE PART OF THE TURKEY THAT MAKES YOU SLEEPY.
            HAVE A NICE DAY

          • RLTMLT

            It’s the Tryptophan you ingested yesterday. We decided to eat ham this year but I’m experiencing the same effect !

  • Duane A. Fisher

    They try to commandeer this election and the rathe of ” We the People ” will be upon them. The Socialist Progressive Communist of the Democratic party are pushing for Civil War.

  • libby

    Some one needs to tell these people Hilary forfeited her presidency when she threw in the towel before all the votes were in. These people have been chanting Hilary for president for over eight years you would think they be use to loosing.

    • RLTMLT

      They have been losers all their lives, how would they know the difference ?

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