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Trump DOJ Likely to Find Many Offenses in Voter Fraud Probe, Experts Say

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President Donald Trump’s Justice Department will likely find numerous offenses to warrant launching a broad investigation into voter fraud, legal experts and watchdog groups say.

Trump has said that more than 3 million to 5 million illegal votes were cast during the 2016 election, causing him to receive a lower popular vote total than his vanquished opponent, Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in the Electoral College.

On Wednesday, Trump said:

One legal organization took action on preventing voter fraud this week. The Public Interest Legal Foundation, a voter integrity group, reached a consent decree with Noxubee County, Mississippi, which has had voter registration that exceeds the number of county residents since 2011, according to the group. A consent decree is a legal agreement between two parties without an acknowledgment of guilt.

The decree includes requiring the county to identify dead voters on the rolls, clear voter rolls of former county residents, and mail all registered voters who have been inactive since January 2011.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation this week is also seeking to pry the release of information about noncitizens registered to vote in Manassas, Virginia.

Logan Churchwell, spokesman for the Public Interest Legal Foundation, said it is good that the Justice Department won’t just leave it to the nonprofit groups to weed out fraud.

“We need to know how many noncitizens are voting and know the unknowns,” Churchwell told The Daily Signal. “Trump could just enforce the law. The giant research project he tweeted about, or had a series of tweets about, is worthwhile and only something the federal government could do.”

It’s likely that 800,000 noncitizens illegally voted in the last presidential election, according to Jesse Richman, an associate professor of political science at Old Dominion University, who extrapolated on a 2014 study that examined illegal voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections.

Before the 2016 election, there were several documented cases of voter fraud. These included an FBI probe that found 19 dead people were registered to vote in Harrisonburg, Virginia; a woman arrested in Des Moines, Iowa, for voting twice for Trump; and a CBS News investigation that found multiple cases of dead voters and double voting in Colorado.

Churchwell asserted Trump’s 3 million or more projection couldn’t be proven or disproven, but regardless of whether this is an overstatement, President Barack Obama’s Justice Department ignored Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act, better known as the “motor voter” law. This provision requires local governments to maintain and keep voter rolls current.

The Obama administration has not enforced this provision of the motor voter law, and in Florida, Wisconsin, and Ohio, even took action to prevent maintaining the voter registration rolls.

Still others, such as Michael Waldman, president of the Brennan Center for Justice, a liberal legal group at the New York University School of Law, insisted voter fraud is a myth and opposed an investigation.

“An expensive investigation of imaginary voter fraud is not needed. It could easily devolve into a witch hunt,” Waldman said in a public statement. “Worse, it could be used to justify sweeping voting restrictions. There is no need for another investigation that is not independent, rigorous, and fact-based.”

Waldman continued:

There is a great deal of evidence that our voting system locks out far too many eligible citizens from voting. The voter registration system needs an upgrade, and that is something that should unite all Americans. Errors on the voter rolls are emphatically not signs of fraud—they are signs that we need to improve the system.

An investigation into voter fraud would not be complicated, said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a government watchdog group.

“You can see the numbers we are talking about by looking at public voter registration lists and cross-checking that against a list of noncitizens,” Fitton told The Daily Signal. “The federal government could coordinate with state and local governments and determine who registered to vote illegally. It’s a simple process. That’s why the left is so upset. They know the jig is up.”

Enforcing the law is long overdue, said Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Election Law Reform Initiative at The Heritage Foundation.

“We don’t need [to create] a commission. The Justice Department can enforce the law and work with the Department of Homeland Security, and its records for citizenship and change of status to get an idea of who is illegally registered to vote,” von Spakovsky told The Daily Signal.

Regardless of the investigation’s outcome, von Spakovsky expects critics will dismiss anything that falls short of Trump’s 3 to 5 million illegal voter estimate.

“They may try to dismiss this, but the American people don’t believe what the media say about voter fraud not being real,” von Spakovsky said. “Polling solidifies that.”

Report by The Daily Signal’s Fred Lucas. Originally published at The Daily Signal.

  • harry

    what else do we need to now the democrats say the election had very few illegal voters s that settles it.move on folks nothing here to see.LOL

    • Name

      I hope you were just being sarcastic. Democrats are the biggest illegal vote pushers in history. That is the only way they can win.

      • harry

        sorry i was really being sarcastic.

      • ARJAY

        That was sarcasm.

  • ARJAY

    democRATS CLAIMED, BEFORE the election, that there was NO voter fraud.

    Knowing full well that it is the EC that votes the President into office and NOT the POPULAR vote!

    Illegals should not be voting. Dead people should not be voting. Multiple times voting should not happen. Voting machines should not be changing R votes to D votes.

    EVERY one of those examples IS FRAUD!!

  • Name

    I have seen a couple of reports that say 800,000 to 3 million plus non-citizens voted. Based on that alone it would make sense to investigate and have the states clean up their voting records.

  • Robert Pekarik

    Of course the Obama administration ignored this law just like they ignored all the other laws that interfered with their fundamental transformation of America. Finally we have a President and administration that is not afraid to expose the corrupt to the core democrat strongholds that have abused, misused and ignored our laws for decades. The democrat party is corrupt to the core and can never be trusted to honor the oaths that they took to defend and protect we the people and our Constitution.

    • JeF

      This Is Exactly Correct.
      Thank You Robert For Saving Me The Time To Express This Fact.

  • Robert

    To start with voter registration is not persons that voted, there is a huge difference. If as you say the Liberals are always cheating then how come the Democratic voter turnout was the lowest in 20 years. and in fact the total turnout was the lowest in 20 years, now these are indisputable fact on record, not many wanted to vote for either candidate. Even if there is found out to be voter fraud and I am sure there is to small degree, as here always has been in both parties ever since I started voting in the 50s, no one knows which person the voter voted for because it is a secret vote. There are thousands registered in multiple states, but that does not mean they voted more than once it is just convenient for those who travel to not have to return half way across the US to vote..
    The check should be against those registered and those that voted, I know in my sate wen you vote you are checked off of a list of eligible voters not just registered .Check the voter roll for ineligible voters, then check to see if any ineligible voters voted. In my opinion if the person did not vote then it is not fraud.
    HAVE A GOOD DAY

  • bobwhite1935

    Of course the illegals voted in the US
    election because Obama told them to & it’s more than 800,000 that
    many & more in CA. NY. & all sanctuary cities. Only reason the
    democrats lost the election they had their illegal voters congregated in
    states like CA. NY. & other states they won & would have won
    without the illegal votes just wasted illegal votes in these areas.
    Schumer & the rest of the democrats will have the illegals dispersed
    in all states for the 2020 elections. LINK BELOW.
    https://youtu.be/nfgEvgVC6Qs

  • Mike Goldman

    Can anyone tell us just what is wrong with federal law requiring a phot ID of registerd voter? Something simple, like a Passport, a Valid Driver’s license or State Id, or a Military ID. State ID and/or Driver’s license are very easy to obtain!
    I don’t ubnderstad what the big deal is!
    ; .

    • Bud William

      You are right, Driver.s License’s are easy to get, too damn easy to get, and to use them as a voter’s ID is a joke. Don’t forget non drivers. Right now they do everything under the sun to get people to register and there is no excuse for anyone legally wanting to vote to not be able to vote.

      • Robert

        Bud Williams
        In most states a state Id card will cost you $20 so if you are on Social Security minimum that $20 might have to go for a copay for medicine or a doctor, I am all in agreement with proof at the polls of who you are, but if they are going to require it then a ID for voting should be free to everyone. As it is now it is the same as a voting tax, I agree most already have a Federally mandated Drivers license but there are so many that can not afford the State ID, I have helped many get their ID and will probably help more, but the majority who are disenfranchised are the elderly minorities who a lot of states do everything they can to make sure they can not vote. I know from experience North Carolina and Mississippi are very bad for that, that is why the federal government has gotten into their voting business.
        HAVE A GOOD DAY

        • Bud William

          I agree, it should be free. Period

    • Robert

      Mike Goldman
      There is nothing wrong with voter ID, and i think it should be mandatory by Federal Law, not leave it up to the states. The problem is the cost of the ID in most states it cost$20 for an ID, and a lot of persons on Social Security cannot afford it. That $20 might be needed for a copay for doctor or medicine, the main ones who are effected are the elderly minorities.
      There is more than enough proof that the Republicans in certain states try to sideline the minorities in their states by any means possible. So making someone pay $20 to vote is nothing more than a voting tax or poll tax which is illegal They should make a voter ID free to everyone if they are going to require it.
      HAVE A GOOD DAY

  • Bud William

    Sure the number of illegal voters may only be 800.000 to 1,000,000 but, you can be sure that a number that large can and more than likely changed the outcomes in more than one place in the country. Those who think that people are being denied the right to vote, in this day and age, they are living 50 to 60 years in the past.

  • Bill Steffen

    For more on voter fraud – do some checking on the Presidential Election of 1960 (in Texas and Chicago), the Washington St. governor’s race (Rossi vs. Gregoire) in 2004 and the Minnesota Senate Seat (Coleman vs. Franken) in 2008.

  • keepthe2nd

    The Dems talk of the importance of our elections being fair so what is their problem with an investigation? They are the ones that wanted recounts are they not?

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